06-23-2019, 11:53 AM
(This post was last modified: 06-23-2019, 02:49 PM by Sputnik. Edited 17 times in total.)
Your Steam Name: Sputnik
Your Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:53344407
-Abuser's Information-
Abuser's Steam Name:
#1 Queen Nora
#2 SnowyWhalez
#3 Ozen
Abuser's Steam ID:
#1 STEAM_0:0:41777583
#2 STEAM_0:1:447812665
#3 STEAM_0:0:92235521
-Player Interview-
What did the other player(s) do that constitutes as mingey behavior:
I will preface this report by stating a possible contention, I understand that these are dedicated players in many facets - one facet being playtime (donators as well?). I can understand why little to no actions will be taken against these players, but what I can't understand is their disregard to the server rules? Do rules apply to these players, or are they free of any?
I would also like to clear out another possible contention being the misconception of mic-spam. From what I've gathered !motd Rule 3 states "Please refrain spamming of any kind", this comprehensively states how broad the rule is - it applies to spamming of any kind. A player told me that the owner "doesn't mind this", but at the time I cannot take this players word because he seemed to be a troll.
My experience being an anecdote will not provide sufficient evidence for a possible review.
There's a massive possibility this thread will be invalidated by these people (or more) by just stating this is not true, again I understand that this is an anecdote.
I will explain the situation itself in basic terms because it's extremely nuanced.
I suspect a player by the name of Ozen of spamming some sort of an E2 contraption that spams very derogatory racist (Rule 7) phrases (I'm sure some of you have heard this before), it is very loud and incredibly racist (As a new player I know of no ways to mute this). Ozen was the only one not building and messing around at the time, but I will not elaborate on this because I have no proof to suffice. But it has stopped after telling Ozen I suspect it might be him. A moment passes till Ozen himself begins mic-spamming, now this makes it clear that his intentions are bad. So this goes on for a bit, I'm not sure when the I complained about the mic-spam but this contention went on for quite a bit and so did the mic spam - it got worse. SnowWhalez joins the conversation I believe to invalidate everything I've said because "The owner told me mic-spam is allowed", but there was no owner on for me to ask at the time, for all I know he could be trolling. I tried to be very eloquent when explaining to this mic-spammer that he's possibly(If not clearly) breaking Rule 3 (Please refrain from spamming of any kind).
During the argument I remained very respectful and adequate in terms of the server rules.
Ozen at one point suggested getting his "friends" in-order to get the vote ban acted on me, even though there was a large number of players at the time. SnowWhalez as well suggests to get me banned, he's accusing me of disrespect when I have been as nice as possible even though I swear a lot - because I know if I've shown disrespect this will be used against me, SnowWhalez has disrespected me on many occasions even though my argument was clear and respectful, the rules are not mean't to be broken and everyone is liable. I made it clear to SnowWhalez that complaining about a player minging and breaking the rules is not a form of disrespect but a power every player should utilize. But clearly they believe that these rules do not apply to themselves - though they wholly disrespected me directly and indirectly, with my complaints being apparent, Ozen worsens the Mic-Spam to intentionally and wholly annoy me, I believe there after Queen Nora joins and is overwhelmed by the ongoing contention, at that point (when I'm staying completely respectful) I'm accused of being a "dick" and "no one cares" and therefore a voteban was initiated.
I was banned for "was as many times to stop but keep going on and being dick"[1]. These players believed that mic-spam was the only exception the rules, yet they ban me for Mic-Spam I would think, told "many times to stop but keep going". A few derogatory terms may have slipped such as "This is not how it fucking works" but I do not mean it with any evil intent and not directed to any player, I was insanely frustrated with how these dedicated members behaved, untouchable, always right, better than you. Shouldn't they be upholding the rules as dedicated members of a community? Why was I the only one caring about such rules existing. They've also stated that you can just "mute", though, why didn't these players just mute me? They seem to be fine with a player mic-spamming and when I complain I'm told to just mute, but they can't do the same?
I've met many great people in this community, I've had countless positive experiences with players, great conversations, one being Mono-Si Engineering and others. Today was just disgusting, I'm hoping there's something that can be done about this. I might have come off as mean, but my intentions were wholly good.
But back to reality, I understand the possible outcomes.
1. I could be the one punished for this.
2. Rule 3 is clarified.
3. I'm told to fuck off.
4. Players I've accused could
potentially be talked with.
5. Punishments given out.
What were you doing on the server?
Trying to learn E2, I learned the basics!
Did anyone else witness this incident, and if yes, who:
I believe a few, I can't recall who, though I wouldn't blame them for not siding with me, after all I'm just a new player noob.
-Evidence-
https://i.imgur.com/E668TMM.png
https://i.imgur.com/T5aEAfv.png
https://i.imgur.com/nO4MGc4.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ageP6ci.png <<<
https://i.imgur.com/ZWtgycO.png <<<
https://i.imgur.com/6BtLITz.png <<<<
Meme Boi spamming: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments...nknown.png
-Extras-
Unfortunately, there are people who will see my post like this. https://i.imgur.com/BBHnrh6.png
Thank you everyone for your time, and thank you Thomas for making one of the few exceptional sandbox servers.
Your Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:53344407
-Abuser's Information-
Abuser's Steam Name:
#1 Queen Nora
#2 SnowyWhalez
#3 Ozen
Abuser's Steam ID:
#1 STEAM_0:0:41777583
#2 STEAM_0:1:447812665
#3 STEAM_0:0:92235521
-Player Interview-
What did the other player(s) do that constitutes as mingey behavior:
I will preface this report by stating a possible contention, I understand that these are dedicated players in many facets - one facet being playtime (donators as well?). I can understand why little to no actions will be taken against these players, but what I can't understand is their disregard to the server rules? Do rules apply to these players, or are they free of any?
I would also like to clear out another possible contention being the misconception of mic-spam. From what I've gathered !motd Rule 3 states "Please refrain spamming of any kind", this comprehensively states how broad the rule is - it applies to spamming of any kind. A player told me that the owner "doesn't mind this", but at the time I cannot take this players word because he seemed to be a troll.
My experience being an anecdote will not provide sufficient evidence for a possible review.
There's a massive possibility this thread will be invalidated by these people (or more) by just stating this is not true, again I understand that this is an anecdote.
I will explain the situation itself in basic terms because it's extremely nuanced.
I suspect a player by the name of Ozen of spamming some sort of an E2 contraption that spams very derogatory racist (Rule 7) phrases (I'm sure some of you have heard this before), it is very loud and incredibly racist (As a new player I know of no ways to mute this). Ozen was the only one not building and messing around at the time, but I will not elaborate on this because I have no proof to suffice. But it has stopped after telling Ozen I suspect it might be him. A moment passes till Ozen himself begins mic-spamming, now this makes it clear that his intentions are bad. So this goes on for a bit, I'm not sure when the I complained about the mic-spam but this contention went on for quite a bit and so did the mic spam - it got worse. SnowWhalez joins the conversation I believe to invalidate everything I've said because "The owner told me mic-spam is allowed", but there was no owner on for me to ask at the time, for all I know he could be trolling. I tried to be very eloquent when explaining to this mic-spammer that he's possibly(If not clearly) breaking Rule 3 (Please refrain from spamming of any kind).
During the argument I remained very respectful and adequate in terms of the server rules.
Ozen at one point suggested getting his "friends" in-order to get the vote ban acted on me, even though there was a large number of players at the time. SnowWhalez as well suggests to get me banned, he's accusing me of disrespect when I have been as nice as possible even though I swear a lot - because I know if I've shown disrespect this will be used against me, SnowWhalez has disrespected me on many occasions even though my argument was clear and respectful, the rules are not mean't to be broken and everyone is liable. I made it clear to SnowWhalez that complaining about a player minging and breaking the rules is not a form of disrespect but a power every player should utilize. But clearly they believe that these rules do not apply to themselves - though they wholly disrespected me directly and indirectly, with my complaints being apparent, Ozen worsens the Mic-Spam to intentionally and wholly annoy me, I believe there after Queen Nora joins and is overwhelmed by the ongoing contention, at that point (when I'm staying completely respectful) I'm accused of being a "dick" and "no one cares" and therefore a voteban was initiated.
I was banned for "was as many times to stop but keep going on and being dick"[1]. These players believed that mic-spam was the only exception the rules, yet they ban me for Mic-Spam I would think, told "many times to stop but keep going". A few derogatory terms may have slipped such as "This is not how it fucking works" but I do not mean it with any evil intent and not directed to any player, I was insanely frustrated with how these dedicated members behaved, untouchable, always right, better than you. Shouldn't they be upholding the rules as dedicated members of a community? Why was I the only one caring about such rules existing. They've also stated that you can just "mute", though, why didn't these players just mute me? They seem to be fine with a player mic-spamming and when I complain I'm told to just mute, but they can't do the same?
I've met many great people in this community, I've had countless positive experiences with players, great conversations, one being Mono-Si Engineering and others. Today was just disgusting, I'm hoping there's something that can be done about this. I might have come off as mean, but my intentions were wholly good.
But back to reality, I understand the possible outcomes.
1. I could be the one punished for this.
2. Rule 3 is clarified.
3. I'm told to fuck off.
4. Players I've accused could
potentially be talked with.
5. Punishments given out.
What were you doing on the server?
Trying to learn E2, I learned the basics!
Did anyone else witness this incident, and if yes, who:
I believe a few, I can't recall who, though I wouldn't blame them for not siding with me, after all I'm just a new player noob.
-Evidence-
https://i.imgur.com/E668TMM.png
https://i.imgur.com/T5aEAfv.png
https://i.imgur.com/nO4MGc4.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ageP6ci.png <<<
https://i.imgur.com/ZWtgycO.png <<<
https://i.imgur.com/6BtLITz.png <<<<
Meme Boi spamming: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments...nknown.png
-Extras-
Unfortunately, there are people who will see my post like this. https://i.imgur.com/BBHnrh6.png
Thank you everyone for your time, and thank you Thomas for making one of the few exceptional sandbox servers.