Ban appeal (can't figure out where it's supposed to be

[Mr Spookwot(V2)]

Your Steam Name: Mr.CarrotV2

Your Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:44557967

Admin's Steam Name: Conky ..?

Admins's Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:31113878


Admin's reason for banning you: Made threats about DDoSing the server and hacking it multiple times. Joke or not, you're not needed here.

Why should your punishment be lifted, and why should we have to trust you after what you did? where do i start..? I'd like to be unbanned from the server cause i've been banned for (no reason..)

Here's how it went down: about 2 -3 weeks ago. after spending about a week or so on the server, i come in and JOKINGLY said : ''I'mma ddos the server muwhahahaha'' Don't know how anyone took that seriously when i made it as obvious as possible that i wasn't under any circumstances going to ddos the server, but for some reason SOMEONE decided it WAS serious and decided to do a vote ban on me for 1 hour for ''threating to ddos''. Whatever i thought, i'll come back on later and explain to these people they shoulnd't be taking me so seriously. (Keep in mind i said it ONCE and did not get the chance of saying ANYTHING after before i was banned) HOUR LATER i come back on and not 3 minutes the same guy that made a vote ban on me before said to some dj guy that i was threating to ddos the server and ohter ridiculous accusations like fucking with peoples props and ohter bs. Got banned for ANOTHER hour and STILL having no possiblity of explaining myself ohter than ''it was a joke''. 19th oh july my pc cooler fails and i have to wait 2 - 3 weeks for another one to arrive. (proof? game activity hours are close to nothing. (atm increasing)

and Today when i finnaly got everything back toghter i want to log into the server and to my suprise I'm PERMA BANNED for ''threating to ddos HACKING? YEA THATS effing right HACKING the server and ''you're not needed here''. Thing is i wasn't logged on again since i got my second ban cause at that point i just said fuck it since i was quite annoyyed at that point too. and yes if you can't tell from this thread, i am a bit Annoyed right now too. cause 

1. Why would i ddos a server i spent a week of my time BUILDING and showing my CREATIONS on if my intentions were to ruin it.

2. How could i be ''hacking and ddosing a server when my pc is ruined for litteraly 2 weeks.

3. How like seriously HOW can ANYONE have taken that ddos threat seriously when i made it clear as light that i was screwing with people.

4. the fact that i  didn't even get a chance to appeal before i was all of a sudden just thrown out without any proof of me apprently ddosing and hacking That's really unfair.

Why should you unban me? Cause i respect the server respect the players i like building there and showing my creations to ohther people and getting advice to further improve. It's a nice place to hang out when i do not feel like doing anything else BUT to just hang out. Trust me cause i'm not that kind of person that hacks ddoses ect cause. A. My ''coding knowlage'' is limited to: Typing cmd and ip config in console. and B. i do not hack or even have a ddos booter or whatever you use to ddos.



 PS: Edits have been made for spelling errors and redoing the format. (Swedish)

[Scott]

I've moved your thread but your appeal must follow the format outlined here: http://forum.ijwtb.net/showthread.php?tid=4
Please just click edit on your post and not create a new thread. Thread format must be changed within 24 hours or its automatically denied. 

[Mr Spookwot(V2)]

I've moved your thread but your appeal must follow the format outlined here: http://forum.ijwtb.net/showthread.php?tid=4
Please just click edit on your post and not create a new thread. Thread format must be changed within 24 hours or its automatically denied. 

 

The appeal has been edited and SHOULD be in the right format now (i'm hoping''

[DJ Mik Sylv]

To provide some clarety on the whole situation the link I provided was to the punishment request submitted after the first voteban by Bonus-Ducks. I would like to quote Conky on his post in the thread in the second sentence were he says "Joking or not, his threats won't be taken lightly."

I heard you explaining that it was a joke and even if it was just that its not a funny one. As for #1 you'd be surprised since some people will do that, pretend to like a server and get involved with it only to backstab it in the end. #2 No one knew that it could have been down for that long. #3 It's rule #6 of the server guidelines "Any threat made against our community (e.g., (D)DoS, crash, etc) will result in a permanent ban.Regardless if your threat has any backing or not, you will be banned. We won't stand by while you threaten our community or its players." #4 Refer back to rule #6 for that.

Sorry to say this but you crossed the line. You could of thought about what you were going to say before you did. While you maybe cool and all I'm going to go with a --Support. The server guidelines are the law of the land here and this whole thing could have been easily avoided if you thought first and act last. Below is the link to the thread.

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http://forum.ijwtb.net/showthread.php?ti...2#pid11732

 

 

[Mr Spookwot(V2)]

Quoting from his since he had two temp bans. THE GUY WHO BANNED me the second time was not aware that i'd been banned already an hour before and jusr went ahead and banned me (cause he though i left to avoid the ban) so that's really not a fair judgement... but whatever i guess if it's gonna end like this i re4spect your decisions.

Thank you for atleast considering.

[Rocket Bunny]

A DDoS/Hack treat is punished with a permanent ban. We do not enjoy jokes about DDoS and hacking. If you read the rules, you would have known this. There was made an ban erquest against you for what you said on the server. And this is your punishment.

[Scott]

Not sure why this was moved to pending but I've moved it back. (No one can reply in pending)

[daigennki]

Well, it hasn't been very long at all since you were banned (a few weeks ago), especially for why you were banned. You were votebanned, so obviously you were not wanted on there, yet you decided to come back and cause more trouble, this time by threatening the server. You were then votebanned again, succeeded by a permaban, the latter done by one of our most trusted staff members who knows what he's doing. Joke or not, threats of any form of attack against the server are strictly prohibited on here and taken very seriously - it's like those stupid "youtubers" that go "it's just a prank bro". The rules, which you obviously haven't read, clearly say that we take these kinds of threats seriously. Even in the appeal you aren't taking it seriously, still claiming that "it was a joke". Obviously you're not learning your lesson here, therefore I give this appeal a --Support. Changed my mind, see later post

[Mr Spookwot(V2)]

A DDoS/Hack treat is punished with a permanent ban. We do not enjoy jokes about DDoS and hacking. If you read the rules, you would have known this. There was made an ban erquest against you for what you said on the server. And this is your punishment.

 

yea and i completely understand that. but what i don't get if the fact i got votebanned AGAIN right after my first voteban. (reason no ur not) had expired. there was no explaination this time just 3 minutes after i ccoming on i got votebanned for the same reason without had said anything this time.

Jul 18, 2015 11:42:09 AM if when i got banned for the first time for ''no ur not'' This ban was resulted in that screenshot that was taken of me ''threatning'' to ddos the server. Jul 18, 2015 3:31:57 PM after coming back on not saying ANYTHING, i just got votebanned again without any reasoning by someone completely diffrent that was't even on at the time i made those threats, and i wasn't on untill yesterday. 

 07-18-2015, 06:42 PM there was a request to perma ban me after nearer to 4 hours aftyer i've been gone, he decides out of the blue to make a perma ban request.


Whatever dude. NO harm done to the server.


i'm gone.

 

[Mr Spookwot(V2)]

Well, it hasn't been very long at all since you were banned (a few weeks ago), especially for why you were banned. You were votebanned, so obviously you were not wanted on there, yet you decided to come back and cause more trouble, this time by threatening the server. You were then votebanned again, succeeded by a permaban, the latter done by one of our most trusted staff members who knows what he's doing. Joke or not, threats of any form of attack against the server are strictly prohibited on here and taken very seriously - it's like those stupid "youtubers" that go "it's just a prank bro". The rules, which you obviously haven't read, clearly say that we take these kinds of threats seriously. Even in the appeal you aren't taking it seriously, still claiming that "it was a joke". Obviously you're not learning your lesson here, therefore I give this appeal a --Support.


i AM taking it seriously. and i did learn my lesson though, but what do you want me to say, that those ''threats i made'' were serious about ddosing and hacking the server? No. I'm not gonna sit here and type lies weather it gets me unbanned or not. A stupid joke no one really laughed at and think is ignorant? sure. should have taken that rule more seriously? of course. do i feel like i deserve this ban? i personaly find it questionable but yea i do deserve this ban. but you're not gonna make me sit here and tell you it was a serious threat with serious intentions.

 

[daigennki]

I'll say it again: We take these kinds of threats very seriously, joke or not, and you would've known this if you read the rules. I'll quote this bit from your appeal:

i come in and JOKINGLY said : ''I'mma ddos the server muwhahahaha'' Don't know how anyone took that seriously when i made it as obvious as possible that i wasn't under any circumstances going to ddos the server, but for some reason SOMEONE decided it WAS serious and decided to do a vote ban on me for 1 hour for ''threating to ddos''. Whatever i thought, i'll come back on later and explain to these people they shoulnd't be taking me so seriously. (Keep in mind i said it ONCE and did not get the chance of saying ANYTHING after before i was banned) HOUR LATER i come back on and not 3 minutes the same guy that made a vote ban on me before said to some dj guy that i was threating to ddos the server and ohter ridiculous accusations like fucking with peoples props and ohter bs. Got banned for ANOTHER hour and STILL having no possiblity of explaining myself ohter than ''it was a joke''.

If you thought the first voteban was unjust, you would've checked the server rules. It says right there that, again, we take these kinds of threats seriously. You could've realized by then that "oh, whoops, shouldn't have done that." But no, you decided to dig yourself a deeper hole, by saying that YOU are you the ones who decide the rules here, saying that people shouldn't be taking you seriously. Why do you think people are trying to punish you for what you're doing? BECAUSE IT'S IN THE RULES. At this point you're digging yourself an even deeper hole by saying you're the one who decides the rules here. If you don't like our rules, then leave.

Oh, and here's another thought: In the solid proof of your actions, it says that you said in chat "SAY GOODBYE TO ALL YOUR BUILDS". Now, yes, it's on a complete different scale but this is like terrorism. Just making the threats in the first place scares people. Regardless of whether or not the threats will actually be done, you're still scaring people. This situation is comparable to that as the hack/DDoS threats scare people who are working on builds that they spent a lot of time on. We don't want an environment where people are scared.

Oh, yes, and I'd also like to hear what Conky has to say about this.

[Mr Spookwot(V2)]

I'll say it again: We take these kinds of threats very seriously, joke or not, and you would've known this if you read the rules. I'll quote this bit from your appeal:


If you thought the first voteban was unjust, you would've checked the server rules. It says right there that, again, we take these kinds of threats seriously. You could've realized by then that "oh, whoops, shouldn't have done that." But no, you decided to dig yourself a deeper hole, by saying that YOU are you the ones who decide the rules here, saying that people shouldn't be taking you seriously. Why do you think people are trying to punish you for what you're doing? BECAUSE IT'S IN THE RULES. At this point you're digging yourself an even deeper hole by saying you're the one who decides the rules here. If you don't like our rules, then leave.

Oh, and here's another thought: In the solid proof of your actions, it says that you said in chat "SAY GOODBYE TO ALL YOUR BUILDS". Now, yes, it's on a complete different scale but this is like terrorism. Just making the threats in the first place scares people. Regardless of whether or not the threats will actually be done, you're still scaring people. This situation is comparable to that as the hack/DDoS threats scare people who are working on builds that they spent a lot of time on. We don't want an environment where people are scared.

Oh, yes, and I'd also like to hear what Conky has to say about this.

 

at no point have i ever stated that i wanted to ''change the server rules''. This is starting to become ridiculous. I simplly said that people shouldnt take me so seriously. a SUGGESTION that you shouldn't take me so seriously, and it does NOT imply that you can't. i don't know how on earth you got that was me ''wanting to change the rules''. jesus christ...

''If you thought the first voteban was unjust, you would've checked the server rules. It says right there that, again, we take these kinds of threats seriously. You could've realized by then that "oh, whoops, shouldn't have done that." But no, you decided to dig yourself a deeper hole, by saying that YOU are you the ones who decide the rules here, saying that people shouldn't be taking you seriously''

you have a very confused time of how it all went down  1. after the first voteban i DID read the rules again and I DID realize that i shouldn't have done that and came back on hoping to be able to tell everyone to chill and i wasn't ACTUALLY going to do it. but (FOR THE THRD TIME in this thread)  i got votebanned AGAIN WITHOUT having the chance of saying anything. And that was the last time i was on cause i didn't log on anymore that day. but without me knowing i got banned THAT NIGHT at 11 pm. so i have no idea what you're talking about when you said (i dug myself into a deeper hole)

And i'll say again. I understand and respect the fact that you took it more seriously than at the time i thought you did. all i was saying if you gave me a second chance i would never think about oding it again-



and yea i'm very intrested in seeing what conky has to say about it aswell.


 

[daigennki]

I didn't mean to say that you directly said you're changing the rules, but moreso that it seems to me that's what you're trying to do; justifying your actions that were against the rules. Again, even if it's just the threats and you don't actually do it, it's against the rules. Also, if an admin was on the first time you made the "joke" threats, you'd already be permabanned. Maybe you didn't do it after the first time you were votebanned, but then you tried to justify the threats, which were against the rules. That might be why you were votebanned twice, along with because you were really supposed to be permabanned by then.

[Mr Spookwot(V2)]

I didn't mean to say that you directly said you're changing the rules, but moreso that it seems to me that's what you're trying to do; justifying your actions that were against the rules. Again, even if it's just the threats and you don't actually do it, it's against the rules. Also, if an admin was on the first time you made the "joke" threats, you'd already be permabanned. Maybe you didn't do it after the first time you were votebanned, but then you tried to justify the threats, which were against the rules. That might be why you were votebanned twice, along with because you were really supposed to be permabanned by then.

 

That makes more sense i suppose, but no i am not in any way trying to change the rules in any way. 

the reason for my second voteban is right after i came on, that trusted user we mentioned before (dj something) logged in right after i did and got  told by genious or someone else that i made the ''threats''  and right away did a voteban. And for the last time, I DO understand the rules and what it has caused and how serious you guys  took it.  I have not argued agaist that point.  i did not understand that the time of saying that BS. 

 

[Scott]

At first I was going to rant how we should ban all the supporters and staff who jokingly say they're going to DDoS all the time. But after looking at the logs your joke really doesn't come across as such.

[09:15:15 AM] (STEAM_0:1:44557967) Mr CarrotV2: muwhaahhaaaa
[09:15:20 AM] (STEAM_0:1:44557967) Mr CarrotV2: i am here to ddos this server
[09:15:40 AM] (STEAM_0:1:44557967) Mr CarrotV2: get ready to get reked kids
[09:15:56 AM] (STEAM_0:1:44557967) Mr CarrotV2: awww maaan
[09:16:01 AM] (STEAM_0:1:44557967) Mr CarrotV2: this is just uncalled for
[09:17:59 AM] (STEAM_0:1:44557967) Mr CarrotV2: sup mate
[09:18:10 AM] (STEAM_0:1:44557967) Mr CarrotV2: yup
[09:18:12 AM] (STEAM_0:1:44557967) Mr CarrotV2: dats a car
[09:18:21 AM] [Team] (STEAM_0:0:82520496) kidlittle1123: are you sure about ddosig us
[09:18:32 AM] (STEAM_0:1:44557967) Mr CarrotV2: ye certainly mate
[09:18:45 AM] (STEAM_0:1:44557967) Mr CarrotV2: lol

As someone coming onto the server who isn't known that's not a very smart way to go about it. Considering you didn't DDoS and youve made your appeal and seem to want to play here I'm going to ++++support this. If others can get unminged/unbanned when they actually disrupted the server then why should someone who did nothing not get another chance? You guys take DDoS way too seriously for the amount of times it actually happens.

[Rocket Bunny]

Yeah scott has a point +3support

 

[Conky]

There's really nothing more to it than the fact that he was saying he was going to DDoS the server being a fairly new player and being votebanned multiple times for it.

I would not be against having him unbanned, but with this you need to be much wiser on what you say. Yes, we do have supporters that make comments all the time like this, but we know they're joking with it since we've known them for a while (some sadly). With your case, you were fairly new to the server making these comments to players that would take it more seriously than an admin would (2 votebans and a ban request).

Scott does have a point, but I wasn't wanting to take chances at the time. I'm sure that'll be understandable.

[Mr Spookwot(V2)]

There's really nothing more to it than the fact that he was saying he was going to DDoS the server being a fairly new player and being votebanned multiple times for it.

I would not be against having him unbanned, but with this you need to be much wiser on what you say. Yes, we do have supporters that make comments all the time like this, but we know they're joking with it since we've known them for a while (some sadly). With your case, you were fairly new to the server making these comments to players that would take it more seriously than an admin would (2 votebans and a ban request).

Scott does have a point, but I wasn't wanting to take chances at the time. I'm sure that'll be understandable.

 

Yes that is completely understandable. and i thought (as you said in your comment) that i was a more trustable (trustworthy) user than i actually was. to make such a joke but obviously that was not the  case and i realized that by then.
 

[daigennki]

My sincere apologies, I guess it's a bad idea to reply on appeals like these when I'm tired. I'm changing my vote to Neutral, I'm not entirely sure what to think about this.

[Confederate]

I have been following this thread the last couple days and I figured I should place my vote. 

I have seen this though many servers, on many different gamemodes. Hell, I saw first hand what happened after an unbanning. One person gave almost the exact same excuse and got unbanned (even with the DDoS threat) from one of my favorite DarkRP servers (before they had to shut down). What happened was propspam, which almost crashed the server, non-stop DDoS until the server's closing, and constant raids from other servers to provoke the server's crashing (we all assumed after the kid got rebanned, he sent some friends from other servers to attack ours). For all those reasons, I am going to -Support. 

[s0mmer]

Scott has a point. +2 support

[Mr Spookwot(V2)]

*poking thread*

[Scott]

Current at +6 supports in total. 

[Christian]

For a player that is rather new to the community I think it's rather unwise to threaten to DDos joke or not. However we all make mistakes and from what have been stated above I think you deserve a secound chance:
++Support 

[Mr Spookwot(V2)]

*Poke*